A poster going by the name of ‘Little Keithy’ expressed surprise at hitting the thread on the riots, when he came here looking for stuff about the War of Spanish Succession. He was obviously not expecting the somewhat eclectic nature of my blog (read ‘any old rubbish that comes to mind’, refered to by my wife as spending half the night on the internet ranting at people). Unlike many wargamers this isn’t a wargame only thing. (It originally started as I wanted to share some fiction I had written with bloggers from other sites I frequent, for their opinion).
He wrote
Anyway what I was going to ask: what’s the allure of the WSS? I like the SYW as there is a variety of troop types plus nice uniforms to paint (not that I ever get round to painting them).
The WSS appears to the uninitiated limited in troop types (in western europe), tactics and pretty uniforms (nice whigs though). Is it more a test of skill having limited opportunities for a coup de grace or clever manoeuvre?
Well, to tell the truth, I chose the period based on hats… (more after the break)
My mate (going by the internet name of ‘Sunjester’) and I have a regular once a month game at his house, out side the confines of our normal club (Tring in Hertfordshire). This gives us the chance to do other stuff, often a campaign. Campaigns we have done over the past few years (usually for 6 months a time) have been Zombies, War of the Roses, ACW and Alien invasion. Currently we are doing a WW2 one with “Troops, Weapons and Tactics”, with the “Platoon Forward” add on (both from Too Fat Lardies).
However, early 2010, he said “Do you fancy doing a new period”? He won’t do Napoleonics due to a bad experience as a new wargamer, and I had ‘Black Powder’ rules. Straight away I said “Something with Tricornes”, for has there ever been a finer military uniform than the hats and coats of the 18th century? (“I say, warfare is a messy business – lets dress the chaps as London dandies!”) That decided upon we were going to do SYW. I said I would do Russians (a nation who’s method of fighting battles seems to be assume the enemy will run out of bullets before you run out of men to be shot), and started researching them. I’d even bought green paint (Games Workshop “Foundation” Green, though it probably has a name like Zombie Snot)(OK Knarloc Green… What’s a knarlock?).
THEN, at the Milton Keynes show in May 2010 a friend of his is getting rid of some old stock, and has 3 Pendraken army packs going cheap - Prussia, French and English/British (depending on which side of 1707 you are on). We decided we wouldn’t do British – every one does British – so we bought the other two, and I chose one at random. Turned out to be the Prussians. We then conviced another club member to buy the English.
Bear in mind at that point my knowledge of WSS at this point was Blenheim-Slow lines-No columns.
So I started to research (and argue) online. And write, and playtest, and rewrite, and argue again. With “& Blenheim Palace” we’ve got something we are happy with. With 10mm Pendraken we have armies we are happy with, and the Black Powder rules work fine for us – I know purist argue, but my view is as a general when I give an order to a brigade (or equivalent), I don’t care how the individual battalions maneouver.
The thing about 10mm is that if you reduce the ranges it doesn’t feel silly. We use cms instead of inches – a straight swap, so no maths on the QR sheet needed. Thus a 6ft x4ft table, which is approx 180cm by 120cm, is equivalent to a 15 x 10 table. You could play with 25/28mm figures but the units would be 6 men, and shooting ranges would be only 5x the height of a man. My dream is to use 10mm figures but on the inch scale as written. The only problem is that I would need 4 times as many figures!
I have 6 men in two ranks to a 20mm base, where as ‘Sunjester’ has 4 in 2×2. I’ve followed the rules closely and scaled the cavalry down to 25mm, where he has 20mm bases for these as well. So, a year and a bit later I have 18 infantry battalions (6 Prussian, 12 Imperial), each of 36 men, plus 8 regiment of horse (12 to a regiment), with another 6 to paint, and 3 cannon, plus one unpainted, as well as various generals and markers. I am particularly pleased with my Commander in Chief.
I reckon over the last year I have spent about £120 on metal, plus painting time, plus storage, on a period I knew little of at the time, all because we were offered a £5 discount per pack.



Is early C18th an orphan period?
Poor relative to the era of Freidrich der Grosse?
No innovation, simple linear schmaltz – or is it the key root of everything that follows historically in war up to the age of mass slaughter?
Epoch of win a battle – take a fortress city – season over? Or more deliberate, decisive aims?
Garn, I can’t half gibber on other peoples’ blogs.
Regards
It does seem very much the unloved child, yet it lays the basis for the next 160 years. However historians hurry through it to get to the ‘proper’ 18th cent war – the Seven Years war.
The musket comes of age – the flint is making it more reliable (ok not saying much), and the bayonette means we have entered the era of the all-role infantryman: Every one can carry a projectile weapon, meaning you can have a homogenus infantry line, with no need to mask the weaknesses of each weapon. Of course, until cadence marching, your forces are unwieldly, but this is the period where generals have to learn a new way of fighting.
Here’s a thought to start arguments umong gamers: Marlborough and Eugene won because their genius wasn’t the manoevering of battalions and wings as such, but they grasped how to use the new weapons. The Musket/bayonet acts as a force multiplier – no longer are 1/3 of your men restricted to melee, and the other 2/3 as a disadvantage: no longer are you restricted in projecting firepower by the need to include pike men. Now your unit can project power, giving it a ‘zone of control’, it can defend itself, and it can assault, with no problems because the men leading the assault can also fire. Additionally the unit can drill as one, with no weakpoints to exploit in a charge.
In addition the balance tips further away from cavalry – 600 man battalions are now 600 pikes on the end of 600 muskets.
The French had a fearsome reputation in 1701. By 1712 they had been humbled. Is it that this reputation was in 17th century warfare, and their generals did not adapt to the new methods.
Pikes were about a fifth of a battalion by the last decade of the C17th. FWIW I’d say the Allies won, the battles on the northwestern front because the French were more committed elsewhere and so likely to lose attritionally and therefore limited to under-resourced bold strokes (up to Blenheim) and dogged defence. Louis XIV’s hamstrung command system of multiple commanders, referring back to Versailles made bold strokes near impossible, so the French let their chances slip and the Allies took theirs. Clausewitz speaks of the difficulty of going from defence to offence.
Ah yes, the high price of “Saving money” by buying discounted figures, that trigger off a new period (or in my case, usually a new army or a major expansion of my existing ones!).
Peter
Not quite that bad (though it has happened) – we were going to start a new period, just it was going to be one that was better documented!
(Unlike a freind who got drunk at a show, and bought an Aztec village…)
Just came across this site, really interesting and helpful as I have just set up a blog of my own.
http://thenorthumbrianwargamer.blogspot.com/
I have also fallen for Black powder, a great set of rules especially for a club night when time is short. I also have loads of Franco Prussian War 15mm figures which I will now be dusting off and give them a go.
Thanks for looking at the above link if you do.
I will keep dropping in to see what’s being discussed.
Cheers, Dave
Have you seen this post?
http://lasthussar.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/franco-prussian-war-scenario-for-black-powder/
You’ll notice this blog tends to be all over the place (I’ll refer you to the first paragraph of the original post)
I’ve been having a go at some amendments for the Thirty Years War. “Blenheim Palace” was an ideal format to slot them into – hope you don’t mind. They are on my blog. Dave H and I are currently trying your WSS variant out – great fun
http://3rd95th.blogspot.com/2011/09/black-powder-bloody-religion.html
Cheers,
Neal
After originating a new thread I am then very tardy at coming along and having a look, sorry for that, actually been working a lot second half of the year, which was welcomed but does interfere with daytime web cruising.
I had a chat with some 10mm WSS players at SELWEG, who were enjoying the period and pointed out some of the problems: mainly with control and maneuvering of units. Looking at some of the battles, it appears the victors were those who managed to put more troops into an area than their enemies.
Anyway good luck and i’ll try to give it a go myself sometime.
BTW I was surprised in August but in a pleasant way.